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		<title>By: Geoffrey Grosenbach</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Grosenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m about a year late, but thanks for the kind words!</description>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being able to do both is hugely liberating. Once you can take a project all the way from initial concept through to design, development and implementation, you can operate much more freely. If you have a big project you can collaborate and speak everyone&#039;s language. Or, on a small project, you don&#039;t have to search around to fill your gaps with someone else.

If anything, as a designer, just knowing how your design will be cut up into code can make the process much smoother.

Andrew, funny you mention UArts. I did my BFA there, focusing partly on the design side. Luckily, I&#039;ve always been more comfortable with design, so UArts ended up teaching me LOTS more about the dev side of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being able to do both is hugely liberating. Once you can take a project all the way from initial concept through to design, development and implementation, you can operate much more freely. If you have a big project you can collaborate and speak everyone&#8217;s language. Or, on a small project, you don&#8217;t have to search around to fill your gaps with someone else.</p>
<p>If anything, as a designer, just knowing how your design will be cut up into code can make the process much smoother.</p>
<p>Andrew, funny you mention UArts. I did my BFA there, focusing partly on the design side. Luckily, I&#8217;ve always been more comfortable with design, so UArts ended up teaching me LOTS more about the dev side of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavron</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I fit into the full stack Web developer mold.  But what about those that can start at an even lower level?  Like assemble the PC, install it, load the OS, configure the network and DNS - AND THEN get started on the development and design?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I fit into the full stack Web developer mold.  But what about those that can start at an even lower level?  Like assemble the PC, install it, load the OS, configure the network and DNS &#8211; AND THEN get started on the development and design?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid U-Arts a boatload to learn to be a designer. As it turns at they taught me how to be programmer.

Being that you are a programmer with an engineering degree you probably want to start looking at Swiss design from the 50s-ish ( like U-Arts teaches ). Start with Paul Rand and work your way out. Its all about &quot;design systems&quot; rather than aesthetics.

Just remember you are going to need to learn how to answer questions like, &quot;Can I get the icon in cornflower blue?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid U-Arts a boatload to learn to be a designer. As it turns at they taught me how to be programmer.</p>
<p>Being that you are a programmer with an engineering degree you probably want to start looking at Swiss design from the 50s-ish ( like U-Arts teaches ). Start with Paul Rand and work your way out. Its all about &#8220;design systems&#8221; rather than aesthetics.</p>
<p>Just remember you are going to need to learn how to answer questions like, &#8220;Can I get the icon in cornflower blue?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design for Web Developers - A Book - Asymptomatic</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Design for Web Developers - A Book - Asymptomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] break that to you.But yeah, I want to become minimally proficient at visual design. I want to be a full stack web developer. I expect that there is some process I can follow to start down that path. Interestingly, Randy was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Learning&#8221; to Design ‹ Chris Morrell</title>
		<link>http://forge38.com/blog/2008/06/full-stack-web-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Learning&#8221; to Design ‹ Chris Morrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while back, Randy, of ümlatte, posted some thoughts on becoming a full-stack developer, something that I take pride in being.  Though I think it may be impractical in many (mostly [...]</description>
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